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Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Ahí es donde yo quería entrar, términos como DIY o underground tienen muchas lecturas, y cada uno lo ve como le da la gana o le interesa. Como bien dice crust, Converge no son DIY para nada, pero bajo mi concepto no hay nada más DIY que haber llegado hasta donde han llegado dejándose el culo desde el principio y haciendo una música tan poco accesible sin deber nada a nadie más que a sí mismos.
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Pues yo creo que siempre se les menta como la banda más representativa del jarcor DIY y ellos tampoco lo han negado nunca ni desmentido (si no me equivoco). Vamos, entonces me parece peor porque se tiran el rollo de algo que no son. Un ejemplo:
It’s interesting you say you strive to do your own thing. A lot of musicians – just for example, an interview I had with Andy Williams of Every Time I Die. He was very adamant about the respect he had for your band and your D.I.Y. attitude. Having the longevity you’ve had as a band, what do you think about the D.I.Y. scene now with technology such as the Internet either ruining it, or in fact helping people do things that were much harder to do back in the day.
The world of independent music doesn’t exist of the level that it did, say, 15 years ago. 20 years ago – 15 years ago. Things are just dramatically different. Things are no longer truly underground. Underground culture, counterculture music, has been co-opted and packaged and sold as safe rebellion to a lot of kids. A lot of independent music doesn’t have the bite and power that it used to have. It doesn’t have a message – whether it be a personal message or political message, an environmental message, anything. A lot of that fight is gone. A lot of that will is gone. It’s not to say that there aren’t these bands that are embodying those key things and speaking up for something, whether it be artistic or social relevance. It’s few and far between. There’s more bands playing the fantastic level. They’re role playing. They want to be in a large band. They want to play heavy music, but there’s no message. It’s decoration. It doesn’t really go past the sound. There’s no sort of personality or character behind it. That’s a sad thing to me. Personally I wouldn’t want to go out there and play music and share ideas with people if I had nothing to say. That’s kind of how we’ve always been as a band. The day we aren’t relevant anymore to ourselves, that we no longer have something collectively to put out there that we want to share with people, that will be the day we stop making music. I find that to be an interesting thing. Now there are bands that come out there and they get management and booking and they run around and merchandise themselves to hell – there’s not really a message to what they really do. That’s sad to me. I hope that they find their voice with those bands that are missing that. That’s definitely the difference in punk rock or D.I.Y. mentality now. D.I.Y. mentality now is setting up a MySpace music player and adding friends. It’s not going out on tour and booking their own shows. It’s playing to 10 people at a VFW Hall. It’s learning to find your own voice and find what you love in music. There really isn’t much of that anymore. [People care more about] their fame and notoriety rather than their substances. That’s sad. At least to me it is.
De todas maneras, ¿qué es para vsotros DIY?
It’s interesting you say you strive to do your own thing. A lot of musicians – just for example, an interview I had with Andy Williams of Every Time I Die. He was very adamant about the respect he had for your band and your D.I.Y. attitude. Having the longevity you’ve had as a band, what do you think about the D.I.Y. scene now with technology such as the Internet either ruining it, or in fact helping people do things that were much harder to do back in the day.
The world of independent music doesn’t exist of the level that it did, say, 15 years ago. 20 years ago – 15 years ago. Things are just dramatically different. Things are no longer truly underground. Underground culture, counterculture music, has been co-opted and packaged and sold as safe rebellion to a lot of kids. A lot of independent music doesn’t have the bite and power that it used to have. It doesn’t have a message – whether it be a personal message or political message, an environmental message, anything. A lot of that fight is gone. A lot of that will is gone. It’s not to say that there aren’t these bands that are embodying those key things and speaking up for something, whether it be artistic or social relevance. It’s few and far between. There’s more bands playing the fantastic level. They’re role playing. They want to be in a large band. They want to play heavy music, but there’s no message. It’s decoration. It doesn’t really go past the sound. There’s no sort of personality or character behind it. That’s a sad thing to me. Personally I wouldn’t want to go out there and play music and share ideas with people if I had nothing to say. That’s kind of how we’ve always been as a band. The day we aren’t relevant anymore to ourselves, that we no longer have something collectively to put out there that we want to share with people, that will be the day we stop making music. I find that to be an interesting thing. Now there are bands that come out there and they get management and booking and they run around and merchandise themselves to hell – there’s not really a message to what they really do. That’s sad to me. I hope that they find their voice with those bands that are missing that. That’s definitely the difference in punk rock or D.I.Y. mentality now. D.I.Y. mentality now is setting up a MySpace music player and adding friends. It’s not going out on tour and booking their own shows. It’s playing to 10 people at a VFW Hall. It’s learning to find your own voice and find what you love in music. There really isn’t much of that anymore. [People care more about] their fame and notoriety rather than their substances. That’s sad. At least to me it is.
De todas maneras, ¿qué es para vsotros DIY?
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Para mi es un problema de concepto, aunque en esa entrevista no lo admiten explicitamente seguramente ellos tengan una idea diferente de lo que es el DIY, más en EEUU que se comercializa con casi cualquier cosa y es un término que se está poniendo de moda peligrosamente.
Para mi DIY eran (por poner un ejemplo) Fugazi cuando decidieron no tocar en salas por más de 5$ la entrada. Pero ni Converge ni toda la gente del documental Blood Sweat and Vinyl tienen que ver con el DIY, ni promotoras, ni grandes canales de distribución ni nada que se mueva en círculos capitalistas, el DIY entiende en primera instancia la música como hobby y no como forma de vida.
Para mi DIY eran (por poner un ejemplo) Fugazi cuando decidieron no tocar en salas por más de 5$ la entrada. Pero ni Converge ni toda la gente del documental Blood Sweat and Vinyl tienen que ver con el DIY, ni promotoras, ni grandes canales de distribución ni nada que se mueva en círculos capitalistas, el DIY entiende en primera instancia la música como hobby y no como forma de vida.
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
ostia es que el documental ese es de risa...menuda mierda.
por cierto, sale el título y llenáis 3 páginas (por ahora). qué no llenaréis cuando salga la portada, un tema o el disco entero?
por cierto, sale el título y llenáis 3 páginas (por ahora). qué no llenaréis cuando salga la portada, un tema o el disco entero?
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
¿Hydra Head se mueven en círculos capitalistas? Explícame eso mejor, por favor.
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
yo cuando pienso en DIY pienso en peña recortando cartulinas para envolver un casette regrabado xD
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Hacértelo tu mismo no significa ser un cutre. He visto ediciones "DIY" con mucha calidad.
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Sí, pero yo entiendo que para un grupo de la tirada de Converge puede costar un huevo. De todas maneras paso de vuestras mierdas, lo importante es la música.
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Un video sobre como se curraron la edición de uno de mis discos del año:
No Anchor-Real Pain Supernova
http://vimeo.com/23894450
No Anchor-Real Pain Supernova
http://vimeo.com/23894450
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
LlaneroSolitario escribió:¿Hydra Head se mueven en círculos capitalistas? Explícame eso mejor, por favor.
Hydra Head es una empresa, al igual que Deathwish, las empresas buscan maximizar sus beneficios, yo creo que no hay mucho que explicar.
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Es decir, que solo eres DIY si pierdes pelas, ¿no?
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
No necesariamente, aunque la mayoría de los grupos que se mueven en ese campo generalmente pierden dinero. Por lo que yo he visto es un hobby, al igual que si a ti te mola la fotografía o coleccionar chapitas... y no sólo los grupos, tambien los sellos, hay gente que edita grupos aun a sabiendas que puede palmar pasta o gente que monta conciertos sin ningún ánimo de lucro. Son otras motivaciones.
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Pues yo discrepo por completo. DIY es hacerlo tú. Que ganes pasta o la pierdas, es completamente secundario y no depende de ti. Presumir que ese factor externo a ti es lo que te hace ser DIY o no implicaría que no tiene nada que ver con tus ideas.
Imagina que Hydra Head no hubiesen triunfado. Que Isis no se hubiese hecho famosos y no ganasen pasta. ¿Seguirían sin ser DIY?
Imagina que Hydra Head no hubiesen triunfado. Que Isis no se hubiese hecho famosos y no ganasen pasta. ¿Seguirían sin ser DIY?
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
Wirrak escribió:De todas maneras paso de vuestras mierdas, lo importante es la música.
Pues eso. Yo creo que lo último en lo que me fijo cuando escucho un disco es si lo ha sacado tal o pascual sello.
Re: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind (¿2012?)
New ISIS release in the works. More transmissions to follow.
600 sheets of 100# French Dur-o-Tone cover dragged in for ISIS LP jackets.
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600 sheets of 100# French Dur-o-Tone cover dragged in for ISIS LP jackets.
Ex-Isis drummer Aaron Harris has confirmed via Twitter that a new posthumous release from the band is in the pipeline. Before you get your hopes up however he has clarified that it will not be a new studio album.
A recent posting in regards to the project on the bands Facebook reads as follows:
“This not a new studio album, but is a new record with previously unreleased material. Just to be clear. Thanks everyone!”
It’s quite possible that the outing could be a previously-mentioned EP which will sport “Wavering Radiant” b-sides and more — though that has yet to be confirmed.
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