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salvadante

Clásico del Rock

1993

2 Oct, 2013

Re: Neurosis - Fires Within Fires (Septiembre)

por salvadante » Dom Ago 28, 2022 12:53 pm

Zakk32 escribió:https://blabbermouth.net/news/neurosiss-scott-kelly-admits-to-abusing-wife-and-children-announces-retirement-from-music

Scott Kelly anuncia su retirada de la música, confiesa haber realizado malos tratos a su mujer e hijos.


Joder, que mal todo.
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Wakibu

Gran Maestro

6791

1 Sep, 2009

Bilbo

Re: Neurosis - Fires Within Fires (Septiembre)

por Wakibu » Dom Ago 28, 2022 1:21 pm

Otro grupo del que mandar su música a la mierda. Que asco joder.
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FleiborFlei

Dios del Rock

3175

12 Oct, 2012

Istanbul

Re: Neurosis - Fires Within Fires (Septiembre)

por FleiborFlei » Dom Ago 28, 2022 1:55 pm

Devastadora noticia. No es por justificarlo pero Scott Kelly ha tenido una vida jodida con múltiples problemas de drogas e historias chungas que han quedado un poco ocultas por ser miembro de una banda tan respetada como Neurosis. Que sea una persona enferma y deleznable con los suyos queda bastante claro.

No voy a entrar en el debate estéril de si voy a quemar sus discos, pero reconozco que duele que pase esto con la banda que más me ha marcado.
DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE
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rearviewmirror

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38296

18 Ene, 2006

Madrid

Re: Neurosis - Fires Within Fires (Septiembre)

por rearviewmirror » Dom Ago 28, 2022 10:17 pm

Yo también he flipado con la noticia, imagino que cómo todos. Más que por salir a reconocerlo, por tener la "frialdad" de decidir echarse a un lado y desaparecer por completo de la escena pública.

No sé si esto es el fin de Neurosis o decidirán seguir sin él. Pero vaya golpe para una banda que era súper respetada dentro del mundillo.
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Zakk32

Clásico del Rock

1145

29 May, 2009

Re: Neurosis - Fires Within Fires (Septiembre)

por Zakk32 » Lun Ago 29, 2022 3:21 pm

Comunicado oficial de la banda:

A STATEMENT FROM NEUROSIS

We cannot overstate the level of disgust and disappointment we feel for a man who we once called Brother.

As a band, we parted ways with Scott Kelly at the end of 2019 after learning about severe acts of abuse he committed towards his family over the previous years. In the past, Scott had disclosed his marital difficulties and acts of verbal abuse, as well as his intention to get help and change his behaviors. The information we learned in 2019 made it clear Scott had crossed a line and there was no way back. We did not share this information out of respect for his wife’s direct request for privacy, and to honor the family’s wish not to let their experience become gossip in a music magazine. With Scott’s Facebook post of August 27, 2022 disclosing much of this information publicly, we can finally say what we believe needs to be said.

For the last twenty years we have lived far apart from one another and only saw Scott when meeting up to work on music or play shows. We had no idea what the reality was for his family when we were not around. By Scott's own admission, his abuse was intentional, targeted, and a closely guarded secret - even from those of us closest to him.

Once we learned of his abuse it was difficult to reconcile the horrible information with the person we thought we knew. It’s not surprising he hid the abuse for so long because it is a betrayal of our ethics as bandmates, partners, parents, and human beings.

Since 2019, we have made numerous attempts to contact Scott. We wanted to have an honest talk about the status of the band and find out how he and his family were doing, but he has refused to speak with us for three years. And, in what we now see clearly to be a pattern, Scott refused to take responsibility for his actions. Having been through so much with someone for more than 35 years, one would expect some amount of closure, or at the very least a response.

Now, without returning any of the calls, texts, or e-mails of his bandmates and friends, Scott has made a public post about the situation. To us, this decision seems like another attempt at manipulation, another opportunity for his narcissism to control the narrative. Don't allow Scott to make this about himself, it's about the abuse his family has suffered.

Usually, we would view public openness and honesty about mental illness as brave and even productive. We just don’t believe that is the case here.

There is nothing brave about systematically abusing your wife and children.

There is nothing brave about confessing wrongdoing when you have not done the work to change your behavior.

There is nothing brave about refusing to speak honestly, or speak at all, with one’s closest friends and bandmates, people who have supported you and stuck by you for most of your life.

Compared to the impact of Scott’s actions on his family, the impact on our band pales in significance. Nevertheless, with the heartbreak and horror we also grieve for the loss of our life’s work and a legacy that was sacred to us.

Again, our primary concern is for the safety and well-being of Scott’s wife and children, as well as anyone else in a similar situation. If someone you know is experiencing domestic violence or abuse, please reach out to one of the many local or national resources available. One national resource is:

National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-7233 www.thehotline.org

If you or someone you know is suffering from mental health issues that could make you a danger to yourself or others, please get help before you hurt yourself or the people you love. One resource for that is:

www.988lifeline.org

This is the only statement we plan to make about this issue. In due course, when it's appropriate, we will provide more information about our future musical endeavors, but that time is not now..
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Mijail

Clásico del Rock

2192

16 Abr, 2015

Re: Neurosis - Fires Within Fires (Septiembre)

por Mijail » Lun Ago 29, 2022 3:31 pm

Decepcionante, no voy a mandar a la mierda su música porque al final Neurosis no es sólo Scott Kelly. Hay mucho trabajo en todo este tiempo y hecho por gente ajena a lo que hizo este tío en su vida personal. Pero bueno, es inevitable pensar en esto cuando uno se ponga a escucharles.
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Jolocho

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27 Mar, 2007

Re: Neurosis - Fires Within Fires (Septiembre)

por Jolocho » Lun Ago 29, 2022 3:44 pm

El comunicado tiene toda la clase, contundencia y sinceridad que le faltaba al absurdo, tramposo y a ratos repugnante comunicado unilateral de Scott Kelly.

0 tolerancia y empatía con un maltratador que no es capaz de autodenominarse como tal, que usa las redes para tener más tiempo el foco y vanagloria a sus víctimas por seguir aguantándole sin emprender acciones legales. Menos posts narcisistas y más ganas de afrontar las consecuencias legales de sus acciones es lo que le ha faltado. Poniéndose a disposición de la policía, por supuesto.

Ayer fue un día para el olvido. Hoy es un día para enmarcar.
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American_Psycho

Clásico del Rock

1226

21 Jul, 2004

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Re: Neurosis - Fires Within Fires (Septiembre)

por American_Psycho » Lun Ago 29, 2022 10:23 pm

Menudo bajón, uno de mis grupos favoritos y una de las peores noticias posibles.

Imagino que será por esta mierda que no colaboró en el último disco de Mastodon
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