AMPLIFIER - The octopus STREAM PÁGINA 1

ahora mismo estoi escuchando el insider por curiosidad y terminado el tema o'fortuna y nose bien ke expresar, esto es jodidamente maravilloso, me he kedado prendado, flipo! esos riffs, esas melodias y ese toke oscuro me esta transportando a distintas sensaciones. tristeza,rabia y esperanzas a partes iguales.

ahora mismo estoi escuchando el insider por curiosidad y terminado el tema o'fortuna y nose bien ke expresar, esto es jodidamente maravilloso, me he kedado prendado, flipo! esos riffs, esas melodias y ese toke oscuro me esta transportando a distintas sensaciones. tristeza,rabia y esperanzas a partes iguales.

Ya te digo, yo cada vez que lo escucho descubro cosas nuevas... es denso como un agujero negro lleno de detalles escondidos que lo hacen una delicia para explorar.

pues recien llegado del curro no se me ocurre otra cosa ke ponerme el insider para indagarlo mas y mis concluciones son;

O'fortuna es un pedazo de tema como la copa de un pino canadiense,
le sigue el tamb gran temon Insider, ya lo ke despues viene empieza a bajar la cosa con los siguientes temas hasta llegar a Strange seas of thought pero ke me recuerdan demasiado a Oasis(si no fuera porke se ke son Amplifier, juraria ke el mismisimo liam gallagher canta en la cancion). a partir de la mitad destacaria What is music? y las dos ultimas ke le siguen.

voy a indagar mas en su discografia.

Jejeje, cuando llegues a Map of an imaginary Place creo que alucinarás.
Aunque te recomiendo que te leas este post entero, en el que literalmente, hablamos de toda su discografía.

Aunque te recomiendo que te leas este post entero, en el que literalmente, hablamos de toda su discografía.

es lo ke suelo hacer cuando escucho un grupo, leer mientras lo ke han puesto del mismo, y la verdad el insider me entra de maravilla pero a parte ese ep en el ke hacen un rollo space rock es flipante, me recuerda a cuando descubri a los cave in espaciales.

Por cierto insider el tema en si, es 100% Opeth.(colaria en el blackwater park sin problemas incluso)

Muy curiosa apreciación, mas que nada por que como fan de Opeth nunca me lo había planteado.

El inicio me parece Nirvana 100% no se por qué. Aunque si lo cambiáramos por la típica acústica que utiliza Mikael Åkerfeldt quizás si que tienes razón.

Respecto a la canción...pues que coño, la manera de concebir la distorsión es muy diferente en los dos grupos (Opeth un death metal muy pulido y pulcro y Amplifier simplemente son únicos, re-distorsionando sus guitarras varias veces), pero esa sensación de muralla sónica totalmente controlada (no comparar con caos controlado) si que recuerda mucho al filtro Opeth, también el tempo instrumental y vocal encaja perfectamente.

Y que te ha parecido el último minuto y medio de Mongrel´Anthem, bueno, para mi de los puntos álgidos de Insider, y una muestra de que con un poco más de tiempo algunas canciones serían aún más redondas. (la otra mitad de la canción es algo redundante)

Nueva entrada de Sel en el foro, en el que explica todo el proceso del álbum, la historia de este, como irán los pre-orders firmados (yo tendré uno!!), y que les ha llevado a autoeditarlo, y que dificultades han tenido.




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Blog. I hate that word.

So - while I am waiting for the server to flip over, I'm gonna post this up here so you guys at least can know what's going on.

After this there will be a proper place that you can subscribe to that will keep you up to date with all the stuff that is going to happen.
And believe me - I think that things are afoot.

Anyway here's one to get you started...





Ampcorp.Industries








Ampcorp Communication #1
28 October 2010 21:28

Welcome to nowhere.
That is where you currently exist.
No really.
Think about it.



Anyway – That’s a good grounder for our little chat.
I can presume that if you are here then you probably have some questions you’d like answering.
Well that is good. Because I have some answers to give you.

So, Where is The Octopus?
Well, to be honest at the moment The Octopus is in a lot of places. It is at the CD factory. It is at the printing proofers, it is on this computer that I am currently typing on and it is in an exercise book that I bought from WHSmith some time ago for 80p, which is currently residing in the house of an ex-music journalist who has been reading it. It is also on 100,000 individual tiny stickers that are hiding behind the curtain on that shelf over there, right next to the rolls of posters that hopefully will appear magically on TV via the medium of one of my friends. But more importantly than all these inconsequential places, it is in the minds of a lot of people, at least in some teeny tiny fashion. This is important, because fundamentally – you are The Octopus. This will make more sense with time, so you’ll just have to go with me on this for a while.

What Is The Octopus?
Now that is a good question – on the one hand, The Octopus is 2 tangible and real things. – It is a double album by me and my two chums collectively called Amplifier, and also it is a book detailing The Octopus which I wrote over about 6 years.

It’s a funny record. It’s very very very big. In all dimensions. It’s kind of a concept album, except that the concept is a concept. There isn’t a storyline like in Jesus Christ Superstar, and the songs aren’t about cephalopods and how we shouldn’t eat them. In fact there isn’t actually one single octopus involved in our (non) story. Think of it as a kind of metaphor.
That is why there is a book which explains what The Octopus is. It’s a funny book. There’s no characters or story line. Some of it is in pictures. Some of it is in words. And some of it is in pictures of words. In fact, it’s not really a book. It’s something pretending to be, or camouflaged as a book. It’s a big book, a very very very big book. We had to condense it down to fit on 8 pages for the standard edition. You’ll need very keen eyesight to read it. Luckily you can get it in a large format 70 page edition as well for those of us for whom, let’s face it, our eyesight isn’t getting sharper.

This all sounds very odd. It doesn’t sound like a normal album I’d get.
A good insight. That’s because it isn’t. Don’t think of it as a CD or album. Think of it as a place in your head you probably hadn’t noticed before.

Is The Octopus more than just the sum of its parts?
No it isn’t. Yes it is so.

OK, all this word play aside – why is it / has it taken so long and when will it be ready?
Well, this question is much more complicated.
Firstly, The Octopus is an exercise in non- compromise. To be uncompromised you need to be self reliant. Every single element of The Octopus has been hand made by me/us with no external interference or financial assistance except from our audience and friends. We chose to make it without the constraints of market forces, release schedules, unit management and sales quotas.
No, TV tie ins, radio and press junkets, quarterly a&r meetings. No shareholder disputes no staff layoffs and credit restrictions. There have been no marketing or press campaigns, there have been no big name producers or intercontinental flights to make 50K videos. There has been no simultaneous artwork development and grooming of the relevant social networks, nor a plugger phoning or bombarding people with relentless messages. Every single step of The Octopus has been slowly and doggedly taken one by one, each issue resolved before the next is dealt with. The Octopus is a series of tiny evolutionary steps. This is why it has taken a very long time. Things should be allowed to take as long as they need to take in order to reach maturity. Not a moment longer and not a moment less. That is a fact that we have forgotten in the modern world.
Secondly, being idealistic is all very well and good but doing things in the real world means one thing. Money. If you want to do something independently then you’d better be able to pay for it. That means we needed to sell tee shirts and CDs. It was no joke to us that we had to sell tee shirts for The Octopus 2 years upfront, before it was even finished. If you bought one – then you financed this record and it was your belief and commitment to it that made it happen. Thanks to you. If you didn’t buy one, then go and buy one now: www.amplifiertheband.com/merchandise.php They now feature 20% more Octopus.
Thirdly – Putting out a record is much more complicated then you think. I know. I’m going through it right now. Doing Eternity was super easy. That was misleading. This is much more complicated. Manufacturing a CD in a slipcase is child’s play. Millions of people do it everyday. You can sort the artwork out at home on your computer and send it off to a robot printer. Co-ordinating a book, multiple layouts, different materials over multiple products becomes overwhelmingly complicated and full of pitfalls. Eventually you need to get specialists involved. Nightmare. I know. I’m going through it right now. And paying for it too.
Then you need to tie that all in with getting magazine coverage and talking to people who are gonna tell more people about what you are doing. This is all massively time consuming. That’s why record companies spend 3 months upfront doing all this stuff and have different departments that are doing all these things simultaneously, not one after another like us. We don’t have this resource, so things take longer. What about all the registering and copyrighting – have you done that? MCPS? PRS? PPL? Did you get your ISRC codes for your label – What about your label is that registered? The list is long and each detail needs looking at thoroughly so that there are no mistakes. A department dealing with all this would be an excellent resource. Even though I hate record companies, I do respect them. What about photographs and images and content – where does that all come from – that needs to be imagined into existence. That is the most difficult thing of all to conjure out of thin air, especially when you’ve got 16 other things all competing to get on to your plate.
Now, I know I sound like I’m bemoaning this situation. Well actually I’m not. I’d rather be failing at sorting all these things out for myself and learning from my mistakes than be letting someone else be making a catalogue of different mistakes on our behalf, and yet not even be afforded having the lesson from it. Ha! That sums up the music industry perfectly. Even in failure it robs you of any possible positive outcome. No really - I'm not bitter.
Anyway - this brings me neatly on to the last point:
Fourthly, and most importantly, when you commit to doing something for yourself and only for yourself, you must take over ultimate control in as many aspects of whatever you are doing as possible otherwise you are still, essentially, compromised. If you make the commitment to only 100% excellence to the best of your abilities, then you had better stand by that principle. There’s no point afterwards going – “... I wish I had just spent an extra day sorting out that type face so it was correct....”
Do you know what: The type face is important. It’s what people look at.
With a label – the type face isn’t important. The input/output of cash flow is important because they’ve got to pay peoples wages for Christmas.

Ok – most importantly – when is it going to be ready?
Well – I can’t say specifically right now. I can tell you exactly what is happening RIGHT NOW. Those of you with an insight into the CD manufacturing process can probably guess.
Right now – The CDS are being manufactured – ready to go into the finished objects.
You also need to understand that we’re making more than one version of The Octopus.
First of all there is the full version. This is a proper 70 page book with the CDs contained within it. This is really expensive to make and you just can’t afford to make a mistake with an order like this.
Secondly, there is a more conventional digipak issue which has a condensed 8 page booklet.
There are other versions as well, but we will discuss these after the initial release.
Anyway, right now – There are problems with the artwork formatting, which caused them to be rejected from the original print run. This is being reformatted by a professional. They will fix the problems and reset the artwork and books over the different products. This might take a week.
The products will then be proofed and signed off. In the case of the book – they will make one, I will look at it and approve it if it’s correct - or we will have to wait a bit longer while we fix any problems with its appearance or layout before we manufacture them all. The pages need to be perfectly bound and it needs to be a proper job. There’s just no point rushing it.
Because the pre-orders list was much bigger than anticipated we have pushed the print run up to 1500 to accommodate everyone. This is a good thing.
Believe me. It’s really not in our interests to keep this going any longer than is absolutely necessary, especially with Christmas coming up. The fact is that the annual phenomenon of the petrifaction of actual human excrement into plastic which is sold as CDs by contestants of the X Factor pushes up production costs as the demand for manufacturing facilities increases.

So - What will happen when it’s ready?
This is the bit I’m most looking forward too.
The night you see a big Octopus sign in the sky – that’s when it’s ready.
No, actually -The day it comes back from the plastic factory, I will look at it and presumably be happy with the job, so then I will email everyone in the pre-orders list to let them know the day on which The Octopus button will be activated on the merch page. We can only email 500 people a day from gmail so don’t worry if you’re not in the first batch of emails – it will take a few days to email everybody. If someone knows of a better way of doing this then please email me and let me know (sel@amplifiertheband.com). I will be extremely grateful.
In the email, we’ll detail what the different versions are and what you’ll get and most importantly how much it will be. We’ll need to work out the average postage cost first, because obviously it’s twice as heavy as it would normally be.
Between the last pre-orders email and the actual activation we’ll leave at least 3-5 days to give everyone a chance to read it.
After the pre –orders go up, we’ll say that the actual release day would be between 10-14 days later. That’s why it’s called a pre-order. The reason we do it this way is because if we didn’t we’d be so swamped with orders that we’d never get them out. This way everyone gets their copy at the same time and we get a chance to sign the editions we need to sign. As I learnt from doing Eternity – that in itself takes a very long time indeed.

What happens after that?
Well this bit, essentially, has three different elements.
1 – You listen to The Octopus (and read it too if you like) and feel good things.
2 – We pay the patient people we owe money to before the mob become involved.
3 – I have a nervous breakdown and then a nice rest.

Everyone’s happy.



More news next week

Y que te ha parecido el último minuto y medio de Mongrel´Anthem, bueno, para mi de los puntos álgidos de Insider, y una muestra de que con un poco más de tiempo algunas canciones serían aún más redondas. (la otra mitad de la canción es algo redundante)

pues la verdad es la cancion ke menos me llama la atencion. ya lo del minutaje de los temas hay algunos ke se me hace un pelin largos(algun minuto como mucho, nada grave)


lo de insider es una sensacion ke me dio como cuando escuche a opeth por primera vez con el tema dirge for november, ese aura grisaseo y melancolico, a parte el solo ke hace tiene bastantes influencia de mikael o por su parte tamb de steve wilson (:lol: )


PD: llevo todo el santo dia escuchandolos y no me canso, eso puede significar dos cosas; o me engancho de mala manera, o me acabo saturando de oirlos tanto y tan seguido, todo se vera con el tiempo....

PD: llevo todo el santo dia escuchandolos y no me canso, eso puede significar dos cosas; o me engancho de mala manera, o me acabo saturando de oirlos tanto y tan seguido, todo se vera con el tiempo....

Hombre, yo paso por un periodo de saturacion despues de que un disco me impacte. Lo veo una fase normal, luego ya lo escucho con menos obsesividad y con mas calma.

Y sobre el mensaje de Balamir impresionante, ya cuando me mandaron las camis se notaba que era gente cojonuda con la nota personal y todo.

Donde se puede hacer el pre-order?

Creo que ya no se puede hacer, había un limite de los primeros 500 o 1000 pre-oders, no recuerdo. Y ya hace meses.

La intención de los pre orders, como dice la carta de Sel, es que los fans tengamos el álbum antes que nadie, antes que las revistas, que los medios, que las webs de descargas... vamos, si al final funciona será algo que nunca habré visto hacer.

Thanks for the info.

Estoy por apuntarme a su foro, a ver si desoxido un poco mi ingles macarronico.

cuarto dia seguido escuchandolos y para hacer la mañana mas amena es perfecto, fin del diario.

PD: hay una cosa ke no me cuadra en el ep eternity, la voz del sel suena diferente o es cosa mia?

El eternity es su primer EP que sacaron, creo que es del 2000 o antes, incluso antes del EP que al final acabaría siendo el homónimo.

Editaron Eternity el año pasado, en plan nostalgia y como regalo a los fans (los 150 primeros estaban firmados y dedicados, como el mio jejeje..), así que tampoco hay que tomarse ese EP mucho en serio, aunque tenga cosas interesantes.

Mira que le he dado oportunidades a este grupo y la verdad es k lo daba por perdido, no me entraba, pero ha sido escucharos y no se me ha dado por ponerme hoy mismo el insider, y , la verdad es k ahora me esta entrando bien, k koño, de maravilla!!

a mi me habeis enganchado tambien. al ep, que me parece cojonudo, y al insider

el resto mantiene el nivel?